Not Fit

I’ve spent a lot of time in space over the last couple weeks – crisscrossing regions, moving things around.

I’m regularly passing through Madirmilire and have noticed Code Alliance member Lei YingLu has almost always been there.


Every so often the pilot will be flagged as a criminal. Unsurprisingly when you look at their Killboard, you can see a history of Hi-Sec Suicide Ganking over the last two months. The tool of choice seems to a Vexor hull and fittings worth around 21M ISK, targeting T1 Haulers carrying 200+M ISK.

While Killboard data is not entirely accurate, the picture painted is hard to dismiss.


2.2B ISK lost, 78.0B ISK damage inflicted.

Going through some of Lei’s kills, it is apparent that the Loot fairies don’t like them much. It wouldn’t surprise me that if after costs (including (I assume) security tags to allow them to stay in Hi-Sec), that they mightn’t even be getting a 20% return on the losses they are attributed to be causing. Still – at least 5 to 10B ISK earnt a month is nothing to sneeze at.

Glancing through his kills however I keep seeing examples like this, over and over:

Untanked and even unfitted haulers carrying 100’s of Million ISK in cargo. I find it a bit flabbergasting.

Lei obviously has friends or Alts scanning passing traffic. I also noticed a couple of times that when Lei had a criminal flag, pilot Anya Sutodla in the same system had a suspect flag. Looking at their Killboard it would appear that they are used to loot the wrecks left after suicide ganks. Going suspect obviously means they too are then being blown up – a factor I’ve included in the low-ball percentage rate of return.

I’m not sure a sudden influx of inexperienced Alpha clones is going to suddenly mean the Suicide Gankers and Griefers are going to be extra busy – the omega Clone pilots are already taking up all of their free time.

The things you see and think about while flying around.

7 thoughts on “Not Fit

  1. The hauler alt isn’t necessarily being killed. Taking the loot only flags you as suspect. By positioning yourself carefully, you can be aligned out, loot the can, and warp almost instantly; on the off chance you can’t, the state police web first, and will web you into warp. I’d be surprised if, with his experience, he’s losing any looting alts.

    • I was going by their Killboard which had a scattering of lost haulers (although from memory all but one were empty), and the stories I’ve read on blogs and articles by Suicide Ganker’s about it occurring.

  2. -10 security status and criminal timers aren’t exactly the same thing. Accordingly Lei YingLu isn’t bothering with security tags. If you have low security status but don’t dawdle, you’ll likely stay ahead of the faction police (and other players). Only an actual criminal timer generating attack brings Concord (or gate/station guns) into action. Importantly, beyond the 15 minute criminal timer window, Concord (and gate/station guns) care not about criminal activity though the faction police (and other players) continue to hold grudge.

    • I understand that – but the pilots security status is currently only -0.7, despite over 130 Hi-Sec Hauler kills in two months, the majority involving Concord destroying his ship. While pilots don’t specifically need to worry about their security status, this one seems to.

      • Oh my, you are correct. When I partook of Suicide Ganking I proudly wore that -10 security status as badge of honor. Lei YingLu, it seems, feels differently. EVE’s a crazy game.

      • “I find it a bit flabbergasting.”

        Why? At what point has the game directly educated the player about risk? As far as I recall, not once in the tutorial does the industry section address ship’s defense.

        I been wondering if the changes to the NPE will assist players to learn earlier about the dangers of the game. Suicide Ganking is enabled in the vacuum of ignorance – and nature abhors a vacuum.

        I am curious to wonder about the introduction of things like the NPC mining fleets. It is really the expectation that gankers will switch from players for possible lucrative NPCs. How soon will there be NPC haulers which were talked about so long ago?

      • Easy Esky – unless purchased or gifted, generally by the time you amass 200-500M ISK in game you have probably played long enough to have a basic understanding of ship fitting and the games common dangers. Hauling that amount in such a risky fashion might at times be from ignorance, but I expect more often it would be due to traits such as laziness, stubbornness, or “no fucks” given.

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